Fabulous Fern’s
Once again we had a great turn out. There were a few people absent, but all in all the core group was there. The discussion was all over the map and nowhere near where we thought it would be. We began to talk about the pub night as an intro to some of the new comers who had not joined us before. There were about four new faces with us last night so it was imperative that we give a glimpse of the vision, and past of pub nights. That conversation then lead smoothly into the issue of emerging churches and christian philosophy within branching denominations.
The subject of worship was brought up in a most unusual way. Why do we put so much emphasis on music in our worship service. Is there too much music in the church. Maybe we need to cut back and focus on a more gathering, sharing, and teaching. I personally thought the point was valid. It seems that no matter what your music preference is the real issue is left unresolved. The real issue isn’t did we make enough people happy this morning with our line up. It should be how did we minister to the congregation as a whole in more ways than just singing. Music has lost so much of it’s impact on the church these day because it’s so debated, and argued about that it’s not even healthy. The meaning of a song is completely lost by a nit picky congregation that doesn’t like this or that about the way it was done. The message is still there we just don’t see it.
We also touched briefly on the topic of Christians, and adult beverages. I’m sure Jason can explain that whole argument better than I so I shall let him comment. Personally for me it is a good way to calm me down in the evening or in a social setting. Once in a while it is refreshing to sip a beer, and coupled with good discussion it’s grand.
For the better part of the time we mingled in the creation verses evolution debate. For the most part we were all on the same page the God did create the earth. The question we asked was how. There is evidence out there to support an old earth and the lineage of biblical accounts supports a young earth. Could there have been a lapse in the time between God creating the earth and God creating man. We came the conclusion if you can call it a conclusion. That there are several un-decifered actions that happened in Genesis. Personally I am glad that there are people willing to throw out idea’s as to the age of the earth and so on. I don’t think will ever fully wrap our minds around the great act of creation in this life.
Calvin yes I said it Calvinism was one of the last topics we hit on briefly. Someone mentioned a friend who was a Calvinist who was asking people questions. He ask is your God a God of Love or a God of justice. The immediate response was both! Once again I will let Jason comment on this topic.
Tentatively we will meet at keegan’s Irish pub next month. Same time in the evening 7:00pm on the 14th of Nov.
Welcome
I have set up simple blog to use as a resting place for idea’s, and thoughts from pub nights. By no means will they rest in our minds, yet they will rest here so others can collect them. We have exciting topics to discuss this next week as we talk about the end times. Also we may even touch on the topics of gender roles in the church. Which seems to be a hot button topic today.
For those of you who are less familiar with pub nights. Let me shed a little light on it. First of all we meet in pub’s hence the “pub night” tag. This simply means that we wish to be where the lost souls are. We don’t force feed our thoughts on others we encourage them to join us. The none threatening environment helps to break down walls of hostility. As for the content of our discussion, that’s a good question. We like to keep it fairly open for the most part. But we will stay within the boundaries of christian theology. The group will primarily hit on topics within Christianity, the church, and our spiritual walk.
If you are free and would like to join us this Tuesday the 17th @ 7:00pm we will be at Fabulous Fern’s in St Paul.
